Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Weave & Wobble

Anyone here up for a game chicken or motorhead roulette?  Old school chicken was kinda' like a pistol duel...except on motorbikes.  One idiot would be on one end of the street.  Since it takes two to wango tango, another idiot would be facing the first idiot....all the way down on the opposite end of the street.  The longer the street, the more intense the dual was.  Once the signal was given, the two riders would twist wide open on the throttle and head towards each other.  The dude who braked, let off on the throttle or veered out of the flight path of the other bike first, was the loser.  (Both were losers to begin with.  I can say idiots with all authority endowed, because I have tried it a few times.  Here is a tip;  Make sure your opponent knows left from right...then tell him that when the time comes to veer out of your way, to veer right and right only!)

Modern day chicken is a little more tame, and probably something you all have done.  Modern day chicken is simply finding a good, long road that is straight, smooth, void of debris and the law.  The object is simple;  Start and one end of that road and run it with the throttle wide open until your motorbike just won't go any faster, or until you hit the rev limiter.  The rider with the top speed wins.  This doesn't sound all that dangerous unless you factor in Weave and Wobble. 

I have encountered weave and wobble many, many times.  I have always thought it has something to do with the way the rear tire tracks the front tire, or a misalignment of the two.  I also thought it might be bad bushings on the rear swingarm.  It might also be due to imperfections in the road...which is sometimes the case when you have those rain grooves in the pavement.  In most situations, it's none of those culprits I found out...even though, logically, all my theories would certainly contribute to my pony bucking.  As it turns out, every bike out there has this problem.  I have hit this weave at 50mph as well as 125+mph.  If you hit this phenomenon, you can be almost certain one of three things will happen;  You will crash and burn....or, you will shit yourself....or, you will make it out of it AND shit yourself...maybe even throw up on the side of the road. (which was my case when it happened at 115mph)

WillyD and I were out playing chicken together on a deserted road outside of town awhile ago.  He was putting his new ElectraGlide to the test to see how it handled.  He was sitting up, and I was hunched down behind my bat fairing to facilitate minimum wind resistance.  I wanted to win.  Suddenly, Willy's bike started to buck and weave violently...Hell yeah!  I fucking win!  Whooooo hooooo...  WillyD, he wasn't so happy.  I could tell he was more than unsettled about wobble and weave. (He never admitted to shitting himself...so I'll never know.)

He did some research and I did mine.  There were all sorts of explanations for this, but none could be proven beyond doubt.  Then WillyD dug up this video he found on the e-net.  It might seem kinda' hokey, and slow at first, BUT I URGE EVERY ONE OF YOU TO WATCH THIS IN IT'S ENTIRETY.  IT JUST MIGHT SAVE YOUR LIFE AND THE MORE YOU KNOW ABOUT THE MOTORBIKE, THE BETTER OFF YOU ARE GOING TO BE, BECAUSE I KNOW MORE THAN ONE OF YOU LIKE TO RIP IT OFF OVER 85 MPH.

(Ok, if you must, you can skip to forward to 4 minutes into the video if you just want to get to the weave and wobble section.)



The video has clued me into some things regarding my Street Glide and has helped my planning and thoughts regarding long haul gear load outs.  It has also made me pay closer attention to tire pressure as well.  So now that you know what to do in the case of weave...who wants to play chicken! (errrrrr...unless, of course,  your bike goes faster than 110mph...that's the fastest Tramp will haul before it hits the factory rev limiter...pfffftt.)

13 comments:

mq01 said...

OMG!!! one of the best videos ever!!! thanks for sharing it! yup I've played chicken and lost (i should tell that story sometime), I've weaved and wobbled, and i pretty much shit laughing... but its that scary death defying laughter which really could have easily been vomiting instead! holy moly, been here, and learned from this, thank you.

Arizona Harley Dude said...

Sounds like with my fat ass I don't need to worry about weave....but, if you'll excuse me I'm going check my air pressure right now.

Arizona Harley Dude said...

Thanks Dave! I've been looking at the bike for a couple of weeks thinking the rear tire looked a bit low, but never MADE the time to check it. Just been a gas and go time in my world. Just checked and found only 30 in the rear and 25 in the front. I honestly have no clue when the last time I checked it was.

(No Name) said...

It's funny how everything sounds more authoritative when said with a British accent.

On a recent vacation, I got my Road King up to 100mph on a deserted highway way out in Utah... that was plenty fast enough for me! No weave or wobble by the way...

Canajun said...

Good video. Nice seeing the old XS11 and Z1-900 in operation. And the info on weave in particular was quite interesting, especially the solution. I particularly liked the quote, "Don't panic, just lie down." I think that will become my personal motto.

FLHX_Dave said...

MQ01-"Oh shit!!! whew! Holy crap...wow..bwahahahaha!" oddly enough, I precisely know what you meant.

AZHD-Yeah...I hear yah' on that one. The glide has never done the weave, on the straits, at any speed for the same reason.

NoName-I chuckled because I was thinking that myself when I watched it. Utah is the some of the best riding, minus the snow. Good you still have a sense of speed. One of the dangers I need to correct myself. I have grown accustomed to moving down the freeways at 85, I'm so used to it now that I feel like I'm actually doing 65, so if your 100 felt like 200 your still good.

Canajun-Yeah, I thought I saw a KZ1000 Z1 in there. Always loved that bike. I split a stich when I read your new motto, works for me.

Big Daddy said...

Interesting phenomenon.
Would be hairy as hell to see and feel.
Not that I personally could know as it rarely happens at my self imposed speed limit of 55.
Although I once heard of a Crazy dude who was headed to San Diego a few years back on a Overloaded and improperly balanced camping gear.....He got a serious wobble at 110...and that jackass just leaned forward and put his elbow on the tank and rested his head....Scared the living shit outta the pack he was riding with.
Of course,,,,That's just what I heard...;]

Megan Davila said...

Y'all are crazy lol. No but I've expericed the weave and wobble while on the back, because my ex had an issue with every car out on the road and felt like everything was a race lmao! I actually did a review not to long ago on his bike if y'all want to check it out at www.powersportsdirectoryreviews.com
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IHG said...

You always post the best stuff to keep us all safe! Thanks Dave!!

leslie said...

that was a great video and I'm going to make my son watch it. He's going to be getting his own bike soon and I make him watch videos of crashes so that way when he gets out on the road my hope is that he won't show off to much. You can check out the video I made him watch at www.powersportsdirectorycrashes.com I think there educational for beginners to watch.

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WooleyBugger said...

I'm glad you found this and shared it as it has valuable information to save your ass.
This is a superb video. Think I'll contact the local MSF rider coach about this one.

Perkins Blair said...

The video is interesting indeed. Cudos for sharing it. By the way I love the old-man on the bike. He is proof that old is never an end to anything youthful. Is he not old yet youthful on the bike...